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Thomas Gamble was born
about 1848 in Ireland, and died December 17, 1911, in Hopeton Street, Yale, Waterloo Co.,
Ontario, Canada, at about age 63. He is
the son of William Gamble
of Ireland, and Jane Latimore of
Ireland.
Mary Dorcas Irwin was born December,
1847, in Hope Twp., Durham Co., Canada West, and died
July 18, 1918, at 11 Well Street, Stratford, Perth Co., Ontario, Canada, at age
70. Buried in Avondale Cemetery, City of Stratford, Downie Twp., Perth Co.,
Ontario, Canada. She is
the daughter of John Taaffe Irwin
of Sligo Co.,
Ireland, and Lucinda Bradley of Haldimand
Twp., Northumberland Twp., Upper Canada.
Thomas Gamble and
Mary Dorcas Irwin
were married June 6, 1876, in Guelph, Wellington Co., Ontario, Canada.
Thomas Gamble and
Mary Dorcas
(Irwin) Gamble had five children:
- Lucinda Jane
"Jennie" Gamble:
Born
April 3, 1877, in Goderich, Huron, Ontario, Canada; Died Unknown.
Married September 18, 1907, in Toronto, York Co., Ontario, Canada, to
Edward Dallimore: Born April 15, 1876, in York Co., Ontario, Canada; Died
February 2, 1929, in York Co., Ontario, Canada (age 52). Buried in St John's
Cemetery.
- Mary E. Gamble:
Born about 1879 in Hope Twp., Durham Co., Ontario, Canada; Died Unknown.
Married (1) to
Joseph Haskill: Born about 1867 in Hope Twp., Durham Co., Ontario,
Canada; Died July 5, 1899, in Durham Co., Ontario, Canada (about age 32).
Married (2) December 12, 1906, in Port Hope, Northumberland, Ontario,
Canada, to James Weatherup: Born about 1864, in Drummer, Ontario, Canada;
Died November 19, 1909, Durham Co., Ontario, Canada (about age 45).
- William John Gamble:
Born about 1880 in Ontario, Canada; Died Unknown.
- Alice Abigail Gamble:
Born February, 1884, in Michigan; Died Unknown; Married October 26, 1904, in Durham Co.,
Ontario, Canada, to William Seymore Scott: Born July, 1879, in Clarke Twp.,
Durham Co., Ontario, Canada; Died Unknown.
- Olive Tressa
"Ollie" Gamble:
Born
September 17, 1885, in Duplain, Clinton Co., MI; Died after 1921 in Unknown; Married February 5, 1919, in
Toronto, York Co., Ontario, Canada, to John Rundle Marks Jr.: Born July 20, 1884, in
Portsmouth, Ontario, Canada; Died after 1921 in Unknown. John's parents:
John Rundle Marks of Pictin, Ontario, Canada, and Estella D. Jennings of
Jefferson Co., NY. The parents are buried in Christ Church Anglican
Cemetery, Kingston, Frontenac Co., Ontario, Canada.
Thomas Gamble and
Mary Dorcas
(Irwin) Gamble
divorced about 1890 in Ontario, Canada.
Mary Dorcas (Irwin)
Gamble then married Richard
Pridham Bate.
Richard Pridham Bate
was born
November 2, 1828, in Hartland Parish, County Devon, England, and
died
January 6, 1922, at Victoria Home, City of Lynden, Middlesex Co., Ontario,
Canada, from senility at age 93. He is the son of
Richard Bate of Parkham, County Devon, England, and Frances Pridham of Parkham,
County Devon, England. Richard Bate immigrated to Canada West with his parents in 1843.
Elizabeth Hill was born
about 1825 in Stock
Minsland, County Cornwall, England, and died July 6, 1875, in
Port Hope, Durham Co., Ontario, Canada, at about age 50. She is the daughter of
Unknown.
Richard Pridham Bate and Elizabeth
Hill were married August 11, 1852, in Port Hope, Durham Co., Canada West.
Richard Pridham Bate and
Elizabeth (Hill) Bate had six
children
- Lewis Coleman Bate:
Born
about 1856
in Brighton, County Sussex, England; Died Unknown.
- Elizabeth Jane Bate:
Born
about 1856
in Brighton, County Sussex, England; Died Unknown.
- Joseph Newman Bates:
Born
1858
in Durham County, Canada West; Died
July 26, 1915, in
Rochester, NY
- Richard Hill Bate:
Born
June 12,
1861, in Hope Twp., Durham Co., Canada West; Died
after 1871 in Unknown.
- Mary Elizabeth Bate:
Born
1863
in Durham County, Canada West; Died
April 18, 1922,
in Elgin, Ontario, Canada
(about age 59). Buried in South Park Cemetery, Elgin Co., Ontario,
Canada. Married November 25, 1885, in Durham Co.,
Ontario, Canada, to Mathew M. McNish: Born December 25, 1864, in
Canada West; Died 1941 in St. Thomas, Elgin Co., Ontario, Canada (about age
76). Buried in South Park Cemetery, Elgin Co., Ontario, Canada.
- Edward Bate:
Born
about 1864 in Unknown; Died Unknown.
- Aurilla Jane Bate:
Born
May 19, 1865, in Port Hope,
Durham Co., Canada West; Died
February 2, 1927, in St.
Thomas, Elgin Co., Ontario, Canada (age 61).
Buried in South Park Cemetery, Elgin Co., Ontario, Canada.
Married May 22, 1890, in Lindsay, Victoria Co, Ontario, Canada, to
Robert Taylor Bate: Born
November 1, 1862, in Port
Hope, Durham Co., Canada West; Died
August 19, 1934,
in Elgin, Ontario, Canada (age 71).
Richard Pridham Bate then married Ellen Dickson Newson.
Ellen Dickson was born
about 1830 in Upper Canada, and died March 31, 1897, in Port Hope,
Northumberland and Durham Co., Ontario, Canada, at about age 67. She is the daughter of Peter
Dickson of Unknown, and Ellen Unknown of Unknown.
Unknown Newson was born
Unknown, and died Unknown. He is the son of Unknown. Possibly Thomas Henry
Newson: Born about 1832 in County Middlesex, England.
Unknown Newson and Ellen
Dickson were married about 1865 in Unknown.
Unknown Newson and Ellen
(Dickson) Newson had at least one child:
- Edward
Newson:
Born
1867
in
Unknown; Died Unknown. Leigh Larson note: This
relationship is my guess.
Ellen (Dickson) Newson then married Richard
Pridham Bate.
Richard Pridham Bate and Ellen
(Dickson) Newson were married December 25, 1877, in Port Hope, Durham Co.,
Ontario, Canada.
Richard Pridham Bate and Ellen
(Dickson) (Newson) Bate had no children.
Richard Pridham Bate then married
Mary Dorcas (Irwin) Gamble.
Richard Pridham Bate (age 68) and
Mary Dorcas (Irwin) Gambell (age 56)
were married January 12, 1904, in Port Hope, Durham Co., Ontario, Canada.
Richard Pridham Bate and
Mary Dorcas (Irwin) (Gamble) Bate had
no children.
Ada Gamble was born
September 25, 1882, in Ontario, Canada, and died Unknown. She is listed as the
adopted daughter of Thomas Gamble.
TIMELINE
Ontario was known as: "Upper Canada" from
December
26, 1791, to February 10, 1841;
"Canada West" from February 10, 1841, to July
1, 1867; and
"Ontario" after July 1, 1867.
Richard
Pridham Bate was born November 2, 1828, in Hartland Parish, County Devon, England.
Ellen Dickson was born
about 1830 in Upper Canada,.
Elizabeth Hill was born
about 1825 in Stock
Minsland, County Cornwall, England.
Mary Dorcas Irwin was born December, 1847, in
Hope Twp., Durham Co., Canada West.
Helen J. Wilford was born
March 19, 1846, in Canada West.
Thomas Gamble was born
about 1848 in Ireland.
Richard Pridham Bate and Elizabeth
Hill were married August 11, 1852, in Port Hope, Durham Co., Canada West.
The 1861 Census for
Durham Co., Ontario, Canada shows Richard Bate (age 28)
born in England is a married Wagon Maker living in the Village of Port Hope.
Also living in Port Hope are: Elizabeth Bate (age 26) born in England; Louis
Bate (age 7) born in Upper Canada; Joseph Bate (age 3) born in Upper Canada;
Alfred Bate (age 2) born in Upper Canada; M. Bate (age 1) born in Upper Canada;
and Richard Bate (age 64) born in England, a Brewer.
Unknown Newson and Ellen
Dickson were married about 1865 in Unknown.
The 1871 Census for
Durham East, Ontario, Canada shows Richard Bate (age 40)
born in England is a Wagon Maker living in the Village of Port Hope. Also living
in Port Hope are: Elizabeth Bate (age 26) born in England; Louis Bate (age 7)
born in Upper Canada; Joseph Bate (age 3) born in Upper Canada; Alfred Bate (age
2) born in Upper Canada; M. Bate (age 1) born in Upper Canada; and Richard Bate
(age 64) born in England, a Brewer.
Elizabeth (Hill) Bate died July 6, 1875,
in Port Hope, Durham Co., Ontario, Canada, at about age 50.
Thomas Gamble and
Mary Dorcas Irwin
were married June 6, 1876, in Guelph, Wellington Co., Ontario, Canada.

Thomas Gamble and
Mary Dorcas (Irwin)
Gambell marriage record.
Richard Bate and Ellen
(Dickson) Newson were married December 25, 1877, in Port Hope, Durham Co.,
Ontario, Canada.
The 1881 Canadian Census shows
Thomas Gamble (age 37) born in Ireland, is a married Laborer, and is living in
Hope, Durham East, Ontario, Canada. Living with him are the following, all born
in Ontario, Canada: a married female, Dorcas Gamble (age 37); a female, Mary E. Gamble (age
2); a female, Lucinda Gamble (age 4); and a male, William J. Gamble (age 1).
Thomas Gamble and
Mary Dorcas
(Irwin) Gamble
divorced about 1890 in Ontario, Canada.
The 1891 Canadian Census shows
Thomas Gamble (age 45) born in Ireland to Irish-born parents, is a married Laborer
Machinist, and is living in
Gault, Waterloo South, Ontario, Canada. Living with him are: his wife, Ellen Gamble (age
41) born in Ireland to Irish-born parents; and his daughter, Ada Gamble (age
8) born in Ontario to Irish-born parents.
The 1891 Canadian Census shows
Richard Bates (age 60) born in England to English-born parents, is a married
Waggon Maker, and is living in Port Hope, Durham East, Ontario, Canada. Living
with him is his wife, Ellen Bates (age 61) born in Ontario to English-born
parents.
Lucinda (Bradley) (Abbey) Irwin died July 19, 1896, in
Hope Twp., Durham Co., Ontario, Canada at age 90.
Ellen (Dickson) (Newson)
Bate died March 31, 1897, in Port Hope, Northumberland and Durham Co., Ontario,
Canada, at about age 67.
The 1901 Canadian Census shows Dorcas is widowed and
a Housekeeper for a widower, Richard Bate (age 68).

The 1901 Canadian Census.
The 1901 Canadian Census shows Olive Gamble (age 15)
born September 7, 1884, in the United States is an unmarried Cousin of a Farmer,
Ebenezer Irwin (age 39) living in Hope Twp., Durham East, Ontario, Canada.
The 1901 Canadian Census
dated April 9, 1901, shows
Thomas Gamble (age 55) born July 12, 1845, in Ireland, is a married Labourer, and is living in
Gault, Waterloo South, Ontario, Canada. Living with him are: his wife, Helen Gamble (age
55) born March 10, 1846, in Ontario; and his adopted daughter, Ada Gamble (age
18) born in Ontario.
Richard Bate (age 68) and
Mary Dorcas (Irwin) Gamble (age 56)
were married January 12, 1904, in Port Hope, Durham Co., Ontario, Canada.

Richard Bate and
Mary Dorcas (Irwin)
Gamble marriage record.
Dorcas claims she
is widowed
The 1911 Canadian Census shows Dorcas is married
to Richard Bates. Olive Gambel also lives there.

The 1911 Canadian Census.
Mary Dorcas (Irwin) (Gamble) Bate
died July 18, 1918, at 11 Well Street, Stratford, Perth Co., Ontario, Canada, at
age 70. Buried in Section: Q; Lot: 298; Sub: 2, Avondale Cemetery, City of Stratford, Downie Twp., Perth Co.,
Ontario, Canada. Name on record: Dorica Bates. Cemetery interment date
incorrectly listed as in 1920; should be 1918.

Mary Dorcas (Irwin) (Gamble) Bate
Death Record.
Thomas Gamble
died December 17, 1911, in Hopeton St., Yale, Waterloo Co., Ontario, Canada, at
age 66.

Thomas Gamble
Death Record.
Richard Bate, age 93, a retired widowed Carriage
Maker, died from senility on January 6, 1922, at Victoria Home, City of Lynden,
Middlesex Co., Ontario, Canada.

Richard Bate
Death Record.
Second husband, Richard Bate(s), was a hard
person to find information because his surname was spelled with and without the
“s.” He was married two times before he married Mary "Dorcas" Irwin. I had six
(6) children; four (4) males and two (2) females with his first wife. Wives:
Elizabeth LUN Bate(s) (c. 1835-c. 1876) and Ellen Dickson Newson (c. 1830-1897).
The informant on his death record was M. McNish, St Thomas, Ontario, Son-In-Law
- Matthew McNeish/McNish who married Richards' oldest daughter Mary Elizabeth
Bate(s). Poor man lost his wife Mary in April that same year
First husband, Thomas Gamble is found on the
1891 Census of Canada in Galt, Waterloo South, Ontario, Canada married to a
Helen LNU Gamble, age 45 (Birth; 10 Mar 1846, Ontario). His occupation is listed
as Labourer (Machinist). Also listed is an Ada Gamble, age 9 (Birth: 25 Sept
1882, Ontario). On the 1901 census she is listed as adopted daughter and Thomas,
Helen and Ada are still in Galt, Waterloo South, Ontario, Canada. His occupation
is listed as Labourer. Of note on Thomas death record his occupation is listed
as Machinist. I have not found anything else for Helen and Ada.
(1) Lucinda Jane “Jennie" Gamble was born in
Goderich, Huron, Ontario, Canada. In 1891, she is residing in Clarke, Durham
West, Ontario, Canada with sister Mary at Aunt Jane Ann (Irwin) Gilmore family.
In 1901, she is residing in Port Hope, Durham East, Ontario, Canada; Occupation:
Servant. On 18 Sept 1907 in Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada, she married Edward
Dallimore (15 Apr 1876, York, Ontario, Canada - 2 Feb 1929, York, Ontario,
Canada; Buried 5 Feb 1929, St John's Cemetery), son of John Dallimore and Mercia
Hiscock. They are enumerated on the 1921 census at 183 Woodvale Ave, York
Township, York South, Ontario, Canada with the following Children: Edith Olive
Dallimore (6 Jul 1908, York, Ontario, Canada), Herbert John Dallimore (9 Jan
1910, York, Ontario, Canada), Lillian Alburtia “lily” Dallimore (15 mar 1911,
York, Ontario, Canada) and Marian Dallimore (c. 1917, York, Ontario, Canada).
Edwards' occupation: Labourer. Note: In 1921, husband Edward Dallimore (Dallamore)
is also listed residing with William and Alice (Gamble) Scott; Occupation:
Labourer with daughter Lily, age 10.
(2) Mary E Gamble was born c. Sept 1879, Hope, Durham, Ontario, Canada. 1891
residence same as sister Lucinda Jane “Jennie" Gamble. On 9 Mar 1897 in Port
Hope, Durham, Ontario, Canada she married Joseph Haskill (c. 1867, Hope, Durham,
Ontario, Canada – 5 Jul 1899, Durham, Ontario, Canada) son of David and Cynthia
Haskill. On the 1901 census, she is residing with her in-laws in Hope, Durham
East, Ontario, Canada, widow. On 12 Dec 1906 in Port Hope, Northumberland,
Ontario, Canada she married James Weatherup (c. 1864, Drummer, Ontario, Canada –
19 Nov 1909, Durham, Ontario, Canada), son of James Weatherup and Helen Hatchell.
In 1911, she is residing in Millbrook, Durham, Ontario, Canada; Domestic for
Larma(r) family, widow. 1921, she is residing in Millbrook, Durham, Ontario,
Canada; Servant Mr Thomas Wesley Larmar (widower), widow.
(3) William John Gamble, I did not find anything for him other than the 1881
census.
(4) Alice Abagail Gamble was married 26 Oct 1904. Enumerated with husband and
children: 1911, 252 Romeo, Stratford, Perth North, Ontario, Canada, Occupation:
Blacksmith; 1921, 11 Well St, Stratford, Perth North, Ontario, Canada,
Occupation: Blacksmith.
Children:
- Josephine Elizabeth Scott (B: 7 Sept 1905, Ontario,
Ontario, Canada – 25 Nov 1992, Stratford, Ontario, Canada ) Married: Kenneth
Alfred F Standen (4 Q 1905, Battle, Sussex, England) son of Alfred Standen
and Lillian Coleman, on 7 Jan 1928, Perth, Ontario, Canada.
- Olive Pearl Scott (12 Feb 1909, Perth, Ontario,
Canada - 8 Apr 2002, Stratford, Perth, Ontario, Canada).
- Lillian Dorcas "Lily" Scott (Oct 1910, Stratford,
Perth, Ontario, Canada – 23 Jun 1944, Stratford, Perth, Ontario, Canada).
Married: Irwin William Ellah (c. 1909, Milverton, Ontario) son of William
Ellah and Clara Hainkel, on 18 Aug 1928, Perth, Ontario, Canada.
- Clarence Scott (c. 1917, Stratford, Perth, Ontario,
Canada – 8 Jul 1998, Stratford, Perth, Ontario, Canada).
- Alice Rachel Scott (c. 1921, Stratford, Perth,
Ontario, Canada – 5 Sept 2008, Stratford, Perth, Ontario, Canada). Married
an unknown Carter
(Source for some information: scott family Tree: (Ancestry)
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10827480/person/1401141442)
(5) Olive Tressa Gamble and her
husband John Rundle Marks are enumerated in 1921 on Union St, Portsmouth,
Kingston, Ontario, Canada residing with her husbands parents. John's occupation:
Caulker.
(B) Oliver Nathaniel Abbey
Death Certificates for children
and grandchildren are attached. I do not know if you have them but I am sending
them to you. They are from the Royal BC Museum,
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch,
assessed 24 Apr 2014, unigift
First husband, Thomas Gamble is found on the 1891 Census
of Canada in Galt, Waterloo South, Ontario, Canada married to a Helen LNU
Gamble, age 45 (Birth; 10 Mar 1846, Ontario). His occupation is listed as
Labourer (Machinist). Also listed is an Ada Gamble, age 9 (Birth: 25 Sept 1882,
Ontario). On the 1901 census she is listed as adopted daughter and Thomas, Helen
and Ada are still in Galt, Waterloo South, Ontario, Canada. His occupation is
listed as Labourer. Of note on Thomas death record his occupation is listed as
Machinist. I have not found anything else for Helen and Ada.
Second husband, Richard Bate(s), was a hard person to find information because
his surname was spelled with and without the “s.” He was married two times
before he married Mary "Dorcas" Irwin. I had six (6) children; four (4) males
and two (2) females with his first wife. Wives: Elizabeth LUN Bate(s) (c.
1835-c. 1876) and Ellen Dickson Newson (c. 1830-1897). The informant on his
death record was M. McNish, St Thomas, Ontario, Son-In-Law - Matthew McNeish/McNish
who married Richards' oldest daughter Mary Elizabeth Bate(s). Poor man lost his
wife Mary in April that same year.